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Robert Ivey Jr.

(15 February 1769 – 5 April 1847)

 

Robert Ivey Jr. was born on 15 February 1769 according to a family Bible.[1]   That makes him one of his younger children of his parents, born while his father was living in Dobbs County.  Thus he is likely to be one of the three males over 16 in his father’s household in the 1790 census of Dobbs County, located in the part of Dobbs that would shortly become Lenoir County.  The loss of all Lenoir County records means we have citations for him only in the records of the surrounding counties.

 

He married Elizabeth West in neighboring Craven County by bond dated 9 August 1793.  That this was the same Robert Ivey is confirmed by the same Bible record, which identifies Barna Ivey’s mother as Elizabeth West.  It appears that he and his wife lived on his father’s land in Lenoir County, since Robert Ivey Jr. was deeded land in Lenoir by Robert Ivey Sr. sometime in the late 1790s.[2]  He was probably the same Robert Ivey who was a grantee of Michael Herring about 1799, since his father was in Bladen County by then.[3]  By the 1800 census he was the only Ivey left in Lenoir County, with a household of two males and two females, all under 10.[4]

 

On 2 October 1800, Robert Ivey witnessed the nuncupative will of his father-in-law John West of Craven County, which left a legacy of £150 to John West’s daughter Elizabeth Ivey.[5]  Among others, the will also mentioned a son named Joseph West, who married Sarah Stanley and later moved to Baldwin County, Georgia, and a daughter named Sarah Stanley, the wife of Moses Stanley and a neighbor of Robert Ivey’s in Lenoir County. 

 

Since there are no surviving deed or court records of Lenoir County, our next record for Robert Ivey is the 1810 census, in which he appears with a household of three males under 10, two males 10-16, a male 26-45, a male over 45, one female under 10, two females 10-16, one female 16-26, one female 26-45 and a female over 45.[6]    This household implies a son and daughter not identified by later records.  It also suggests his brother Charles Ivey , and perhaps Charles Ivey’s wife, was living with him.  We know that Charles Ivey was residing in Lenoir County in early 1810[7], and the fact that he does not appear in the census suggests he may have been enumerated in his brother’s household. 

 

In August 1811 Robert Ivey’s older brother John Ivey died intestate in neighboring Wayne County.  Robert Ivey and Grady Herring were appointed administrators of the estate, filed an inventory later that year, and a final settlement in 1814.[8]  Robert Ivey (now called “Senior” to differentiate him from his nephew of the same name) was named guardian of Elizabeth and Edith, two minor children of John Ivey.[9]  On 12 September 1814, as Robert Ivey of Lenoir County, he bought land in Bladen County from his brother-in-law Josiah Stafford, and sold it to his brother Turner Ivey the following day.[10]

 

Robert Ivey moved to Baldwin County, Georgia sometime in mid or late 1817.  There are two lost deeds in the Lenoir County grantor index from Robert Ivey to William Gray[11] and to James Carter[12] that probably reflect the sale of his land in Lenoir County.  Unfortunately, all deed records of Baldwin County are also lost, so we have no clear record of his arrival there.  However, we know he was still in Lenoir County when he filed an accounting as guardian of his niece Elizabeth Ivey in February 1817, and that he relinquished the guardianship to Graddy Herring by 20 May 1817.[13]  The final settlement between Robert Ivey and Grady Herring is dated 13 August 1817.[14]  It seems likely that Robert Ivey was preparing to move by mid-1817.  This is confirmed by the statement by his grandson Malachi Ivey that his grandfather “in 1817 removed to Baldwin County”.[15]  A history of Baldwin County, Georgia contains an undated list of early members of the Camp Creek Baptist Church.[16]  Although some researchers have assumed this list to be dated in 1817, thus further confirming the migration, it was more likely compiled sometime after 1822.[17]

 

It appears that several Lenoir families went to Baldwin County at about the same time – including James and Joseph West and several members of the Davis family.  Although the deeds are missing, court records still exist (I have not read them.)  Robert Ivey appears in the 1820, 1830, and 1840 censuses of Baldwin County.[18]  He died there leaving a will dated 26 October 1843 and proved 3 May 1847.[19]  It named his wife Elizabeth, sons Barna, Furna, James, Robert Dorsey, William and Charles, and daughters Gatsy [Leeves], and Mary.  His daughter Elizabeth was not mentioned, perhaps due to her pending divorce, but her marriage record identifies her as another daughter.[20]

 

Elizabeth West Ivey, his widow, was in the household of her son Charles in 1850.  She was born 22 March 1775 and died 24 June 1853 according to the Ivey-Garland Bible record.  Several Ivey descendants of the early 20th century believed she was his second wife.  This was apparently based on the (relatively modern) gravestone of his eldest son Barney Ivey, which gives a birth date of 22 September 1792, nearly a year prior to prior to the marriage to Elizabeth West.  The Ivey-Garland Bible record, however, gives his birth date as 22 September 1795, more than two years after the marriage.  The latter date seems more likely correct, as Barna is under 16 in the 1810 census and gives his own age as 54 in 1850.  However, see the conflict with the birth date of Gatsey Ivey below.

 


Excursus: Did Robert Ivey serve in the Revolution?

 

No, but his father qualifies as a DAR patriot.   Several people, including my late aunt Virginia Redfearn, joined the DAR on the strength of Robert Ivey’s supposed service in the Revolution.  In doing so, they committed a cardinal sin of genealogy – assuming that two people with the same name were the same person.  There is no evidence for the claim, other than the coincidence that someone with the same name served in South Carolina.  There were at least four, perhaps five, Robert Iveys alive at the time of the Revolution, and no reason to suppose that any given military record applies to our Robert Ivey rather than to one of those four men.[21]   In fact, it is extremely unlikely that our Robert Ivey served the cause, since he was barely fourteen years old when the war ended and not eligible for military service.[22]    

 

A search of North Carolina Revolutionary War records uncovered no service records for anyone named Robert Ivey.[23]  Nor do the North Carolina revolutionary accounts contain any payments of script or warrants to any soldier of that name.  North Carolina’s revolutionary army accounts do mention a payment by the Committee of Safety in Dobbs County in 1776 to Robert Ivey “for hire of a man and horse”.[24]   However, this is clearly his father, who was then living in Dobbs.[25]   Since Robert Ivey was too young to serve, and no records of any service exist, we must conclude that he did not serve.  Further, I note that he never applied for land in the Georgia lotteries as a Revolutionary veteran, which he would have been entitled to do if he had served. 

 

The only Revolutionary service records for anyone named Robert Ivey are in South Carolina.  A Robert Ivey, apparently from Beaufort County, served in the 2nd Regiment of South Carolina Infantry from 8 July 1775 thorough 8 July 1778 (when our man was barely six years old).[26]  A Robert Ivy, perhaps the Robert Ivey of Lancaster District, served 31 days in 1782 as a lieutenant in Francis Marion’s militia (when our man was thirteen).[27]    



[1] Bible Records of Barbour County, Alabama, Vol. 2, Helen S. Foley, p66-68.  “Ivey-Garland Bible Records”

[2] The surviving Grantor Index shows a deed from Robert Ivey Sr. to Robert Ivey Jr.  recorded in Lenoir County Deed Book 17, p 363 (recorded sometime in 1797-98).  The deed book, and therefore the deed, was lost in the courthouse fires of 1878 and 1880.

[3] Another lost deed recorded in Lenoir Deed Book 19, p58 according to the surviving Grantor Index.  The recording date was probably in 1799.

[4] Lenoir County 1800 census, p15:  Robert Ivey 20010-20010-00

[5] Craven County Will Book A, p104.

[6] Lenoir County 1810 census, p315:  Robt Ivy 32011-12111-2

[7] Wayne County Deed Book 9, p216 is a bill of sale for a slave from Turner Ivey to his brother Charles Ivey of Lenoir County dated 10 February 1810.  I note that Robert Ivey’s 1810 household included two slaves.

[8] Loose paper recorded at October court 1812, in folder of John Ivey estate papers filed at NC Archives as CR 103.508.xxx “I” box..  This is a petition of the heirs of John Ivey to divide

[9] Wayne County Deed Book 9, p440.  A deed by the heirs to the widow dated 15 August 1812 is signed by Robert Ivey, guardian of Edith and Elizabeth Ivey.   A petition by the heirs later in 1812, filed in the John Ivey estate file, also identifies Robert Ivey as guardian of Edith and Elizabeth.  He is “Sr.” to distinguish him from his nephew Robert Ivey “Jr.” one of heirs who ws guardian to two other minor children.

[10] Bladen County Deed Book 7, p544 and Deed Book 30, p508.

[11] Lost deed recorded in Lenoir Deed Book 24, p209.  Recorded probably 1815-17.

[12] Lost deed recorded in Lenoir Deed Book 24, p352.  Recorded probably 1815-17.

[13] John Ivey estate papers filed in NC Archives in box CR 103.508.xxx “I” box.

[14] Ibid.

[15] Memorial Record of Alabama (Brant & Fuller Publishing, Madison, Wisconsin, 1893), p553.

[16] History of Baldwin County, Georgia, Anna Maria Green Cook (1925), p100-101.  Also repeated in They Were Here, Vol. 5 (1969), p107.

[17] The list of members is undated and might be assumed to be a list of the founding members.  However, the names on the list could not have been members of the church until sometime in the 1820s.  It includes two women named Elizabeth Ivey.  One was surely the wife of Robert Ivey, but the second Elizabeth Ivey could only have been the wife of Furna Ivey, whom he did not marry until 1822.  [Robert Ivey’s daughter Elizabeth was only 6 in 1817.]  Both George and Gatsey Leeves are also on the list, and that marriage surely did not occur until after 1820.  Furthermore, Asa Cook and James Ivey who appear on the list were clearly too young to have been members in 1817 and were still minors even in the early 1820s.   Asa Cook, who lived in Jones County and attended a different church there,  probably did  not become a member until near 1829 when he married Elizabeth Ivey.   Like many membership lists, this one may actually include people joining the church over a period of a decade or more.

[18] 1820, p46:  210011-11101.  1830, p30:  00211001-00000001.  1840, p60:  0000000001-000000001.

[19] Baldwin County Will Book B, p146.

[20] Marriages and Obituaries from the Macon Messenger 1818-1865, Willard R. Rocker (1988), quoting from the issue of 25 April 1829:  “Married… Mr. Asa B. Cook of Jones County to Miss Elizabeth W. Ivey daughter of Robert Ivey o f Baldwin County.”

[21] We know of four adult Robert Iveys who might have served in the Revolution.  All are mentioned elsewhere on this website.  First, our Robert Ivey’s own father.  Second, his older cousin Robert Ivey of Halifax County, North Carolina.  Third, the Robert Ivey of Southampton County, Virginia.  And fourth,  the Robert Ivey known to have lived in Beaufort District, South Carolina in the 1780s and in Lancaster District in the 1790s.  The Robert Ivey who received grants in Georgia beginning in 1786 may be a fifth person, or may be the same person who disappeared from Southampton County.

[22] We can debate when the war ended, but North Carolina’s recruitment of soldiers effectively ended by mid 1782 when the British withdrew their troops from the South following the House of Commons vote to end the war.  The war was over as far as North Carolina was concerned by early 1783.  North Carolina did not permit militia service, in theory at least, for youths under the age of 16, which Robert Ivey did not reach until 1785 more than a year after the formal end of the war.

[23] State Records of North Carolina (mainly Vol. 17), Compiled Records of SoldiersIndex to Revolutionary War Service RecordsRoster of Soldiers from North Carolina in the American Revolution, Pierce’s Register  and similar publications list no Robert Ivey from North Carolina.

[24] NC revolutionary Army Accounts, Book B, #5322.  The same payment is also mentioned in two other locations among the Accounts.

[25] North Carolina Revolutionary Army Accounts, E-G: 6 and B:18.  These are records of the use of script certificates issued by the state during the war in lieu of money  Neither record indicates service.  Both apply to Robert Ivey’s father, not to the son.

[26] Documentary History of the American Revolution, Gibbes, Volume 2, p97.  Also in the reference footnoted below.

[27] Roster of South Carolina Patriots in the American Revolution, Bobby Gilmer Moss

 

 

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